NoArizona is No Longer Based in Arizona
NoArizona has been around for a few years now. If you’ve been following NoArizona, you may have noticed there hasn’t been an update in a while. There is a simple explanation for this: I left Arizona, and it is the furthest thing from my mind. Living in Arizona was such an unpleasant experience, I enjoy NOT thinking about it! Keep reading, and I’ll tell you how I got out!
I will share with you how I managed to leave Arizona behind permanently. It took a lot of willpower and some money, but I was successful. My methods may or may not work for you, but maybe this post will help point you in the right direction.
1. Make a Conscious Decision About Leaving Arizona!
When I created NoArizona three years ago, I began documenting what I didn’t like about Arizona. I knew I didn’t like living in the Phoenix area, but I wanted to dig deeper into it. I researched statistics, news stories, poetry and shared them with you along with my personal thoughts.
The work put into NoArizona served as a catalyst for my final decision that I needed to do whatever it took to escape Arizona forever. Hearing back from readers like you also helped me realize I was not alone! I hope NoArizona has done the same for you, because you truly are not alone in your feelings of disdain for Arizona.
2. Stay Positive, and Be Grateful and Ask!
When I made the decision to find a way out of Arizona, I learned sitting around and being angry about it wasn’t getting me anywhere. Anger is simply poison for the soul and completely unproductive. Besides, we already lived in an unhappy, angry and rude population.
Now that you’ve made the decision to leave Arizona, it is now the primary goal in your life. Visualize your goal and always concentrate on the achievement of that goal. Keep out all negative thoughts about your situation because they contradict the achievement of the goal. Focusing on the problem reinforces the existing situation and leaves you spinning your wheels.
Instead, focus on the positive aspects of your life. There has to be at least ONE good thing going on in your life! If it helps, write out what you are grateful for.
You’re probably wondering what I mean by “ask”. For me, it was prayer. I prayed for guidance and calm in my life. I personally believe in the power of prayer. If you’re not spiritual, go out on a starry night and ask the stars or rub an oil lamp! The point is to put your wishes out there. You just might be heard.
3. Be Aware of Arising Circumstances that Support Your Goal
Is there a job opportunity in another state? Did your home increase in value, allowing you to sell? Do your parents want you to move near them?
Depending on the goal you’ve set for yourself, you will notice little hints of opportunity that your life is giving you. Pay attention to these circumstances, especially if they support your end goal of moving out of Arizona.
The circumstances that came into my life was that I was able to sell my home without suffering a huge financial loss, and there was a great job offer back east. I quickly recognized these circumstances as being supportive of my goal to leave Arizona.
4. Act On Opportunities
If circumstances arise as mention in #3, act on those opportunities! When the door opens for you, walk through it. Otherwise, you will be stuck and miserable. This is not only for moving out of Arizona, but life in general!
If you don’t act on opportunities presented to you that support your end goal, then the goal you set is not what you really want. When you set your goals, you must do anything and everything possible to meet that goal and keep a good conscience.
As for me, I acted on the opportunities presented to me. I sold the house and took the job. If I had not taken those opportunities, I would still be in Arizona and very unhappy about it. Instead, I’m sitting here enjoying four seasons and living under foliage (another word for trees). I am immensely happy where I live now.
5. Don’t Look Back
When you make it to #5, pat yourself on the back! You did it! You’ve reached your goal and you are enjoying life in __________________!
When I say “don’t look back”, I’m not talking about burning bridges. What I mean is that you’ve decided what you need to do, paid attention to the circumstances and opportunities before you and made the decision to leave Arizona long ago! Don’t look back, do not have any regrets!
As for me, I’m still friends with people in Arizona and I keep in touch with them. I never second guess myself and my decision to leave Arizona because I know it was the best thing for me and my family.
After leaving Arizona, I had to go back for a wedding a few months later. I confirmed my decision to move out of the desert was the right choice when I returned. People were rude, the sun was incredibly bright, the landscape was bland and I felt those old negative feelings creeping back in. You probably know those feelings and thoughts I’m talking about, especially if you read this blog. I couldn’t believe I lived there for as long as I did! I had to remind myself that I did not live there anymore and would be returning to the tree-laden land in a matter of days!
How Can This Help Me?
Everyone’s situation is different. You may not have a house to sell or a job offer to take. I realize my story may not fit your life, and I only described the opportunities presented before me. Your opportunities will be different!
Just because my circumstances may not be realistic opportunities for your life, you will have your own doors open up for you! The key is to pay attention to those circumstances that pop up that may open that door to you leaving!
It is undeniably expensive to move out of the desert. All of the major cities in Arizona are very isolated from the rest of the world (and each other), making almost any kind of move a long-distance move. Perhaps you need to save up money, sell your furniture or just fill up the tank and drive away! You ended up in Arizona somehow, right? No one is forcing you to stay, so find a way and fight for your happiness!
Happy New Year!
It is now 2016. Do you really want to spend another year in a place you really don’t want to be? I’m not a believer in New Year’s Resolutions, as we have to be resolute every day of the year! Stay determined and focused once you’ve decided to finally leave Arizona!
The Future of NoArizona
Just in case you’re wondering, this is NOT the end of NoArizona! Although I’ve left Arizona (for good), this website will remain in the hopes it will be helpful to others. There may not be as many blog posts, but NoArizona will be here.
Thank you all for your comments here on the website, and also be sure to check out our NoArizona Facebook Page!
No Arizona! 
Dude don’t give up the fight –keep publishing against Arizona. Where do you live now?
Beautiful North Carolina!
Oh got that CIA job finally huh?
You promised not to tell!
Wow, i thought about NC and Virginia before moving to this hellhole..(i had family here that talked me into it). Where in NC are you and how is it there?
I am in the Piedmont section. The beach is a short drive to the east, and mountains to the west! There is so much to do here and the seasons are beautiful! It’s what I grew up with, so it’s great to be home.
This is a fantastic update! Thank you for this positive, hopeful post. I escaped AZ this past July, and I’m back on the east coast, too. Your web site is an inspiration to all who seek to flee the cruel Phoenix area. You and I (and many others who have shared here) are proof that leaving Hellizona IS achievable!
Thank you, and congratulations to you! Your comments throughout this site is very much appreciated! It is comforting knowing I wasn’t the only one who felt that way about Arizona!
Heidi, where in the east did you land?
Congratulations! I’m still freezing my balls off in Chicago (El Nino? Where?!?) but I have future plans to move to Texas. Those aren’t set in stone and I’ve heard mixed reviews about the Dallas – Ft. Worth area. I’ve heard & seen enough about Houston to know it’s another Phoenix! Anyway, thanks for doing this blog as it seems to have helped many people cope with a state where nobody wants to live!
Hello, I am new to this blog beleive it or not I FOUND THIS BLOG WHEN LOOKING TO MOVE TO PHOENIX ,YES …I AM WANTING TO MOVE TO PHOENIX LOL.
Aside from that, I live in TX now, the job market isnt that bad Dallas is far better than Houston, Houston is a hellhole, if you hate Phoenix youll realize quickly that Houston is the darkest most humid part of Hell reserved for the masses,its congested ,disgusting and so much more .People are snobbish and its just disgusting.DFW is not too bad, less humid. lots of decent places to live in DFW- NO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION youll need a car. Traveling anywhere can take time,lots but not bad. What does everyone hate about Phoenix? I actually find it nice when i visit. People are a bit rude at times but certain areas kinda call to me, its peacefull to me.
Thank you for the instructions on how to get out of here. We needs instructions, since this place is like a big giant black hole that sucks you in so you can’t get out.
I have been hear for over a decade and still no friends. This place attracts the undesirables. I hate it here.
So I am making this my new years resolution. I’m getting out of here by 12/31/16
https://polldaddy.com/js/rating/rating.jsDid you make it out by your deadline?
https://polldaddy.com/js/rating/rating.js@hspdiscovery, yes I made it out before the deadline! Step 4 is the trickiest. Lots of people will try to talk you out it. They will accuse you of making a big mistake for leaving Arizona. I am on my way to financial freedom right now. Something that would have never happened staying here.
The lack of jobs here is appalling. It’s so hard to find work. There are schools pouring out people into saturated job markets and the companies are lowering wages. I’ve talked to people out of school who say they are told to go work free, to get experience. How stupid is that? When they decide they are experienced, do they really think businesses are going to give them what they want? The idiots can afford to go without a paycheck, which puts them lower than a slave category.
Despite everyone here lowering wages, all you see is new cars, people buying new homes or second homes, airports full of people going on vacations, spas, resorts, casinos, big motorhomes, RVs, motorcycles..how are people affording this? Even if they have credit, the more you charge, the higher the monthly payment will be.
Who are all of these people making over 100K a year? What fields are they in? I don’t get it, because the jobs I have had…no raises, no merit increases, no cost of living adjustments, no bonuses, nothing. You’re supposed to feel lucky you have your job.
Another thing…so many people here don’t work.
They retire at 45, 50, 55…how do they have so much money to retire and not work? They won’t get SS until they are 65, and even that isn’t a big amount for most anymore.
How are they all so rich? Are they all landlords? That seems to be a big status symbol for that group–to buy a home or inherit a home and rent it out, ruining it for people in that neighborhood.
Just so many things here.
Very cold people, very unfriendly here. Maybe that goes with the big fence walls between the homes.
https://polldaddy.com/js/rating/rating.jsMust have government pensions or part of the military industrial complex.
https://polldaddy.com/js/rating/rating.jsI completely disagree with essentially everything you stated. Have you actually lived anywhere outside of Arizona? People in Arizona are extraordinarily friendly, I mark it up to all the vitamin D from the sun. SkyHarbor is often listed as the friendliest airport in the nation. I love living in Chandler. Our home value has increased by six figures the past five years; the roads are in great condition; never have to plan around the weather – you can count on it being wonderful; lots of places to visit beautiful mountains and deserts; good schools; etc. Life and anywhere you live is what YOU make of it, blaming a location or others is an utter cop-out. Also, about jobs – my husband can’t find enough qualified IT folks and he pays nice six figure salaries. If you are unskilled, you probably are not going to have much luck finding a position anywhere. Everyone in today’s world needs to be skilled at something – the days of paying $20 an hour to unskilled factory workers are gone, and should have never occurred in the first place. I come from a working-class family and my folks made it very clear to us early on that we need an education whether college or a trade with which we could support ourselves comfortably. It was up to us to make it happen. People complaining that they have no friends – might want to take a long look at theirselves this is not a problem for everyone. This entire post seems to be a self-fulfilling pity fest. My Dad would say, “grow-up and assume responsibility”.
https://polldaddy.com/js/rating/rating.js@Large event planner, sorry your post is incorrect. Life has been great since we left Arizona! I dont miss Valley fever, ugly brown homes, scorpions, dust storms, meth addicts, overpriced McMansions, daily car accidents, underpaid and over worked high skilled jobs, lack of fresh water, pollution, rude antisocial ppl, car thefts, corrupt politicians, slop food passing as gourmet, 100 plus degrees for 9 months of the year, high summer electric bills, inability to enjoy the summer like the rest of America, high crime in suburbia, overpriced zoos and parks, overcrowded museums, etc. I’m living and loving the good life since leaving Arizona!
And btw, quite places in Arizona is on wasteland. It is a desert. Not anyplace I would build a home on.
Where does your husband work? Does he still need good IT people? My husband is an IT genius and is retired but might consider re-entering the job market for a good salary.
I found your site because I am researching moving there!… From San Clemente Ca.
Initially to the valley but hopefully up north not long after. Perhaps the Sedona area.
Getting a little apprehensive.
I stumbled across your blog and found it helpful. You see, I’m one of those who have felt stuck in the desert. I actually moved from NC (Charlotte) to Phoenix for a job nearly 20 years ago and am hoping to move back soon! I didn’t like the desert when I first moved here, but eventually gained an appreciation for it. To me, the best part about this state is getting out and seeing it! Some spectacular scenery. However, it has never felt like “home” hence, why I am seeking to move back to the southeast. I am glad you were able to find a way out and know you will enjoy all NC has to offer!
glad to find this..been here for only two weeks and i hate it..like being sucker punched in the gut..came here with my spouse because he took a job out here and likes the desert. I may leave him out here to get my ass away from here.
I was in the same situation, having a spouse who loved it there. Our mutual happiness is more important than a place. Good luck getting out! It’s difficult, but can be done.
Did you move away?
Yes! North Carolina
How do you like it?
I love North Carolina! Lived there before moving here.
My husband took a job here 7 years ago we moved here from Austin, Tx. I was in shock from the lack of friendly people here and still am. We will move back to Texas when he retires….. But that will be awhile as he is only 55…. I really do not like it here
At least it is nice to know that it is not just me….. The people here just stick to themselves and arent interested in new neighbors or hospitality. Lot of rude people here
MK sorry for your bad experience. I don’t usually hear that complaint about Arizona. Ironically, we moved to Austin in 2008 and decided to move back to AZ. While the city was beautiful we just couldn’t get used to the vibe of the place.
Sedona has some great views and people. However the widespread corruption and abuses have created an exodous. Worst experiences here for many I know anyway….it and the state should come with a warning label!!! I wish I could leave here…I reluctantly came with family ..and over the years, who have passed away. It truly lives up to its common name as the Hate HATE State!
I also reluctantly came with my family after six years of nagging. I just posted my first comment. I hope it offers you something. Look for opportunities. I keep going with small things: cleaning out closets and kitchen cabinets so I can get rid of unwanted clutter and make a quicker get away. It helps me emotionally, like I’m doing something!
I love this blog because I feel this way! I moved here 15 years ago from N.J. because my husband (now ex husband) wanted to. I didn’t like it when I first came here to visit and I was terribly unhappy when we first moved here. But I wanted my husband to feel happy as he wasn’t happy living back east. After living here 7 months I found out he was having an affair with someone at work. To make a horrible long story short here I am 15 years later and still not liking it. I am happily remarried (now for 11 years) to someone who is from the North West. I would never have met him if I didn’t move here. I feel the reason I ended up here was to literally start over again. My husband and I both have good jobs, my sister and her family live here (even though I screamed don’t move here to her), we have a beautiful home and have made good friends, which some of them have already moved themselves, but I still want to leave. I too want to settle in NC. I love and miss the east coast but don’t want to go back to the hard winters of the North East. I have friends who live in Cary and love it! The only thing holding me back from moving are my two kids I had with my ex. They are happy here and do not foresee moving back east for now. They are both out of high school, going to college and I know will do welI on their own. I am hoping once I make that move they’ll want to eventually follow. I just know in my heart I need to get out of here. Every year when the extreme heat sets in I feel like I am suffocating. It never gets easier to get used to, only harder! I miss the four seasons, greenery, Atlantic Ocean and the east coast mentality. I just hope, if and when we do make that move, my husband likes it. He is easy going and feels as long as we’re happy together we can live anywhere 🙂 But, he’s not from back east and I just hope he doesn’t feel out of place. This blog helps me feel like I’m not crazy in feeling this way and wanting to move. So many people our here love it and they look at me like I’m crazy when they don’t get that same reaction from me.
You are definitely not alone! While Arizona is a nice place it’s certainly not for everyone. The owner of this blog gave some very good advice on how to plan your move out of Arizona. I moved here from NC and learned to appreciate the desert and its uniqueness. However, it never felt like “home” to me and I am now planning my move back to the east. There is a caveat, though, my wife wants to explore the option of bring snowbirds out here during the winter months. We shall see. Good luck in your planning.
Thank you! I agree with your wife on being a snow bird. I aspire to being that one day myself. I love the winters here but despise the months May-Sept. I hope it all works out for you as well.
Thanks Annie!
Hi there. I am from back east, NY and Florida. I live in Green Valley, AZ and like it ok here, but long for the east coast, the trees, grass and greenery, rain, etc. I just can’t stand the desert, the brown, desolate terrain. It looks like there was a nuclear holocaust and the people walking around are the survivors. It’s just flat out ugly.
If you would like to talk I need someone who can relate because the “ZONIES” get offended if you knock the desert. If you email me we can exchange phone numbers. I would rather not post my number on this site. ReneBataglia@gmail.com
Hope to hear from you!
It took me six years before I pulled the plug on Michigan by the prompting of my husband and daughter’s family. It ‘s been three years in the Phoenix area and I still haven’t adjusted. Anti-depressants didn’t help. Now it’s summer and I don’t leave the house unless it’s necessary and dark. My husband does the grocery shopping and runs errands on the weekend. If I travel in the car, he drives and while wearing sun glasses, I keep my eyes closed, so I’m not reminded where I am. Not one day goes by that I don’t think about Michigan. We went to Michigan for a wedding, staying for a few days, Being overcome with grief, I cried much of the time. I agreed to move because of my husband’s back surgery after he slipped and fell at least three times. If I ask to move back am I being selfish?
Paula, I’m sorry to hear about your situation. I think you should talk with your husband to see if moving back to Michigan is a possibility.
Thanks so much for this site. I am almost a life long resident and came here with my mom when I was 5 years old and had no say in the matter. She moved here from California to care for her parents. She worked for the state for years and always told me that by the time you figure out you will never make much money in Arizona you are too broke to leave. You are held captive by low wages and an environment that has never been supportive of employees. ( Right to work state ) The climate is a living hell and in spite of the sales job they do ( you will get used to the heat ) you don’t. It isn’t just 3 months of heat it is more like 5 and the climate is getting hotter thanks to all the cement they are paving the desert with. Apparently they fail to make the connection between heat and cement. People can be cold and the population is transient. Mass transit is poor and it isn’t the most progressive state on the planet. Scottsdale especially is becoming a millennial mecca and if you aren’t a member of that hot demographic or a member of the affluent demographic you aren’t made to feel very welcome. Arrogant attitudes abound. In short, I have complained about it for years, refereed to it as a hell hole and now realize I am the only one who can fix it or improve my situation. Life is too short to call Arizona home – for any length of time. I need to remain positive and locate a job – in a more desirable state. I remain optimistic that a door will open before I am too old to – walk through it. IF this has helped just one person avoid this hole – I have made a positive contribution……………
You are so lucky to have escaped! I feel stuck here. Moved here last year from California. Worst move of my life! 😦
I have been trying to move for the past 15 years! Honestly, Arizona is not a horrible place it’s just not the place for us! I never imagined it would be this difficult to leave. However, my time is getting close and we should finally be leaving in a year or so. I am ecstatic! Don’t lose hope and don’t give up your quest to leave if that is what is in your heart. It will happen, but may require patience.
Rated worst for aggressive driving. Aggressive drivers, aggressive people. I hate this state.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-u-s-cities-have-the-most-aggressive-drivers/
Thank you for posting this. It sounds like I feel the same way you did. I just got through my 19th summer here and I have been trying to leave for years. Finally had the opportunity and it ended up not working out on the other end, so I stayed. I am carefully and patiently planning my PERMANENT escape. Your words are encouraging!
Patience is definitely an important part to moving out of here! I tried twice before, but never took the time I am now taking to plan my move. I wanted out so bad I jumped both times without being prepared.
I did the exact same thing…twice! I too am trying to properly plan my departure although I do not hate Arizona, per se, it just is not “home” for me. I love the outdoor opportunities afforded here.
Happy New Year! May 2017 be the year of your escape from Arizona!
Believe it or not there are lots of people wanting to move to Arizona!
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Love this blog ❤ I’m in the process of moving to California. Just being here, surrounded by green trees and a kinder more open minded culture, has lifted my spirits immensely. After moving from the east coast, I spent 12 (frustrating) years in AZ and NEVER liked it. In fact I vowed desperately to move after the first year but became complacent and then found a great job. It was like my soul was sucked out of me and the last two years I went into a depression thats lifting.
It’s interesting to hear all these stories and relate so much. It’s easy to feel alone in AZ but obviously many feel similarly. I do know people who absolutely love it there but each to their own. If it doesn’t work, you can’t force it.
To anyone who was like me and thought maybe it’s ok, you can make it work, the grass is greener where you water it: there’s a chance it WILL NOT get better there. Sometimes I thought, maybe it’s me and an attitude adjustment is needed. But now I’m not so sure. Take a chance. Risk it to move. Don’t sit around twiddling your thumbs like I did living in misery.
You just confirmed what I was thinking. I have waffled with whether to move or not thinking if I made a few changes here or there things will be different. Well that has NOT worked so far and I find my thoughts still pondering/dreaming of moving away from the desert. Arizona is a nice place for some, but not everyone. I love the scenic beauty of the state, but hate that I feel that my enthusiasm, drive and passion has been sucked out of me. It is NOT the worst place, but after 18 years a change is in order. At this point I know what needs to be done. I am glad you are making the move and wish you well.
I live in south of Tucson and hate it. I love the weather but the desert terrain is so ugly and depressing. You can’t say this to the ZONIES who love it here. I could use someone to talk to about it. I don’t want to post my number on the website but if you email me at renebataglia@gmail.com I can send it to you. Hope to hear from you.
rene have you ever visited http://www.city-data.com? If not I advise checking it out as it provides lots of information on cities in the U.S.
https://polldaddy.com/js/rating/rating.jsI am happy to say I was offered a job in my old state and I will be leaving AZ for good in about a month. This summer would have been my 19th here. I don’t know how I got through the previous 18. After a failed attempt last year it feels so great knowing there is an end in sight to the desert landscape and heat. Thank you for creating the website. It helped immensely. And good luck to anyone else trying to leave. You can do it!!!
https://polldaddy.com/js/rating/rating.jsCongratulations, “Finish Line”!! That is fantastic news! Woo-hoo!!!!
Congrats! Where are you moving to?
https://polldaddy.com/js/rating/rating.jsI lived in Arizona for about 20 years. Lived in Tucson and Phoenix. Tucson sucks ass and Phoenix sucks even more ass. The whole state of Arizona sucks ass. But Phoenix, Nogales, Douglas, and Yuma especially suck ass. Tucson is marginally better but still sucks ass. Hell even the nicer or less hellish places in Arizona like Flagstaff, and Prescott still suck
Even the Grand Canyon is nowhete near as great as people make it out to be. Finally got the hell out of this hellhole state a couple years ago and never looked back. Would never ever even think about moving back. The day I left this hellhole state was the happiest day of my life.
Glad you could get out, Arizona Sucks. Our family briefly resided in a Phoenix suburb earlier this year. We liked it, but we were there during the good part of the year…. and we prefer seasons, trees and less allergens. ; )
Darn! I am moving with my kiddo from the midwest. Her asthma trigger is cold air and I thought Arizona would be a good place to go. I need to get her to a more temperate climate AND obtain good employment for myself. Now what?
At one time Arizona was the ideal place for Asthma sufferers. However, I am not so sure as many people here suffer with Asthma and other respiratory issues. I grew up with Asthma back east and do find it a bit easier out here, but there are many who don’t. Hopefully your kid will feel better out here.
I agree. The pollution and dust in the air make it difficult to breathe, even for people without respiratory issues.
https://polldaddy.com/js/rating/rating.jsHavent really dated or met anyone for twenty years. I am attractive and intelligent. I feel people dislike if u think a lot here or intellectual in any way.The men here like dumb bells
I would love to point out a multitude of absolutely negative things that I hate about Arizona but perhaps as I’m a living debacle of a human I might refrain from doing so. I will just list what I have found, as a 21 year old who has been in Phoenix/Glendale area about a year, are the negatives, positives, as well as my personal background.
Background: I was adopted from Ukraine in 2000 and emigrated and became naturalized around the same time, and naturalization was pretty much nearly 10 to 13 years later or whatever. Started off life in rural Southeastern AZ near the border and city of Sierra Vista. All my life growing up I was endlessly harassed by my dad and abused mentally and verbally and physically until adulthood so it wasn’t easy growing up. But since then, I’ve overcome multiple head injuries and various traumas (like plenty of people I’ve known) and now I’m 270 miles away from family happily and while unemployed currently I’ve come to enjoy just being able to keep to myself, improve myself, and have a few friends show love to me. I’m also in permanent supportive housing since 21 years old basically. I would rate Arizona overall a C+ because I’ve had those moments I was majorly desperate to leave leave leave this state because jobs are relatively shit compared to costs of living halfway comfortably in an apartment or home.
Negatives
-Many people are standoffish on the daily and often try to affix what they believe you should be (military, call center person, blah blah blah)
-Drunk drivers are a regular thing as well as pretty insane accidents at various crossroads throughout the valley. You can sometimes get run over just being a pedestrian.
-Flaky employers, manipulative employers, and just a seeming neverending stream of disregard at mid tier companies. Get used to being lied to straight to your face. $$$ is the bottom line nearly everywhere.
-Economical and housing crashes are relatively as common as major stock market drops, so yeah, shit will get real real fast
-Urban sprawl and gentrification are big deals here in Central AZ and therefore you’re almost 65% screwed if you don’t have some kind of vehicle with a motor and engine. Period!
-Politics are a mess and I’ve seen ridiculous attempts to stab at Trumpian politics, Trump as a president, and other things. People here for the most part are as informed as baby monkeys, pretty much, so don’t even bother with politics half the time.
Positives
-Excellent city at least for single, young, or disabled people. Services abound much more than half of the rest of the state
-Great scenery, hiking trails, sunsets, I could go on forever.
-Fairly safe for biking though urban sprawl makes it a bit less advantageous than a vehicle
-Buses are quite a bit better and nicer, more reserved than light rail
-As a was-homeless, disadvantaged youth, I attest that if you get with the right people before you’re 24 you will be less compelled to leave the state, it’ll boost your morale, you won’t have stuffy nose and other homeless street issues, and you can rise to become a productive and skilled worker for the betterment of everyone else.
-Mexican restaurant and fast food is A BIG HELL YEAH from me:-)
That all being said, I’m relishing my life here though it’s far from a bed of roses, but you know, find your niche, start obtaining as many perks as you can of being a valley dweller, and be in control of your destiny. Everything else that’s not those things is most likely your mind doing a lot of mindf_#@#$- in my opinion. Like I say, if you can’t make something out of the largest area in AZ then something’s bringing you down and needs to be resolved at a personal level. Love life now, go to church if you may, and make yourself #1 priority and everything else has a decent legitimate likelihood of falling in place!!!
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Congratulations!! We are very happy for you that you’re residing in a much better place for your family’s health and wellness.
We went to Arizona for 3 days to help a family move. We weren’t even in the over populated areas such as Phoenix, Chandler or Gilbert and the driver’s were just as bad or worse than California drivers.
Not to mention, it was only 94-97 degrees so that isn’t even crazy hot yet.
Even though it wasn’t as hot …..why did our throats hurt so bad, we weren’t used to the air? Even a local guide our friends knew kept clearing his voice and it was scratchy like it was hurting like ours. I had tight chest pains, super uncomfortable. My throat was hurting so bad drinking cold water was even nasty and bitter. Woke up with a headache in the mornings also. Not used to sleeping with the A/C and the fan on?
We were in the supposedly way nicer/ “higher class “ like surburban areas such as LP and the drivers were horrible. Not from thinking they’re the “sh!t”…just not good drivers. Especially since the traffic wasn’t as congested as it is in CA….so what’s the excuse ?
The air is very dry, and the soil there is like baby powder and dirties the air. I almost always had headaches living there. In Phoenix, it’s a valley which is like a bowl of stagnant air filled with dust and pollution.
All the new home builders sure know how to attract visitors with the nicely built but way more affordable homes than California.
Our friends’ friends are of course telling us how much they love living in AZ since everything is way cheaper than CA. So that makes their life less stressful.
I told my husband it’s worth checking out certain “nicer ,safer cities” since We were already there helping with the move. But he got upset and said “Arizona is Arizona….what difference does it make really from one place to another…same climate weather”
I hate bugs…they all freak me out. But I was shocked he was the one that told me he saw lots of nasty bugs. Usually he gets mad at me when I freak out about seeing a spider!!
But as mentioned, the brand new model homes are always so beautiful to attract buyers. I thought for sure he would definitely want to move there instantly. But to a much surprise , he doesn’t want to move to AZ even with everything being cheaper .
Which led me to googling why everything in AZ is so much more affordable. While almost all the homes, restaurants, and all sorts of entertainment buildings look so nice and new throughout the suburbs. What is the catch besides a little pollution that we definitely noticed. My throat still hurts but at least my chest doesn’t feel as tight as when we were there….
Also I thought AZ wouldn’t have pollen like CA does ; but people say they have bad allergies in AZ ?
DG, I think my allergies may have gotten worse since moving to Arizona. While my asthma is not as bad I am sneezing my head off, dealing with a seemingly constant runny nose and watery eyes.