How To Leave Arizona (For Good)


NoArizona is No Longer Based in Arizona

NoArizona has been around for a few years now. If you’ve been following NoArizona, you may have noticed there hasn’t been an update in a while. There is a simple explanation for this: I left Arizona, and it is the furthest thing from my mind. Living in Arizona was such an unpleasant experience, I enjoy NOT thinking about it! Keep reading, and I’ll tell you how I got out!

I will share with you how I managed to leave Arizona behind permanently. It took a lot of willpower and some money, but I was successful. My methods may or may not work for you, but maybe this post will help point you in the right direction.

1. Make a Conscious Decision About Leaving Arizona!

When I created NoArizona three years ago, I began documenting what I didn’t like about Arizona. I knew I didn’t like living in the Phoenix area, but I wanted to dig deeper into it. I researched statistics, news stories, poetry and shared them with you along with my personal thoughts.

The work put into NoArizona served as a catalyst for my final decision that I needed to do whatever it took to escape Arizona forever. Hearing back from readers like you also helped me realize I was not alone! I hope NoArizona has done the same for you, because you truly are not alone in your feelings of disdain for Arizona.

2. Stay Positive, and Be Grateful and Ask!

When I made the decision to find a way out of Arizona, I learned sitting around and being angry about it wasn’t getting me anywhere. Anger is simply poison for the soul and completely unproductive. Besides, we already lived in an unhappy, angry and rude population.

Now that you’ve made the decision to leave Arizona, it is now the primary goal in your life. Visualize your goal and always concentrate on the achievement of that goal. Keep out all negative thoughts about your situation because they contradict the achievement of the goal. Focusing on the problem reinforces the existing situation and leaves you spinning your wheels.

Instead, focus on the positive aspects of your life. There has to be at least ONE good thing going on in your life! If it helps, write out what you are grateful for.

You’re probably wondering what I mean by “ask”. For me, it was prayer. I prayed for guidance and calm in my life. I personally believe in the power of prayer. If you’re not spiritual, go out on a starry night and ask the stars or rub an oil lamp! The point is to put your wishes out there. You just might be heard.

3. Be Aware of Arising Circumstances that Support Your Goal

Is there a job opportunity in another state? Did your home increase in value, allowing you to sell? Do your parents want you to move near them?

Depending on the goal you’ve set for yourself, you will notice little hints of opportunity that your life is giving you. Pay attention to these circumstances, especially if they support your end goal of moving out of Arizona.

The circumstances that came into my life was that I was able to sell my home without suffering a huge financial loss, and there was a great job offer back east. I quickly recognized these circumstances as being supportive of my goal to leave Arizona.

4. Act On Opportunities

If circumstances arise as mention in #3, act on those opportunities! When the door opens for you, walk through it. Otherwise, you will be stuck and miserable. This is not only for moving out of Arizona, but life in general!

If you don’t act on opportunities presented to you that support your end goal, then the goal you set is not what you really want. When you set your goals, you must do anything and everything possible to meet that goal and keep a good conscience.

As for me, I acted on the opportunities presented to me. I sold the house and took the job. If I had not taken those opportunities, I would still be in Arizona and very unhappy about it. Instead, I’m sitting here enjoying four seasons and living under foliage (another word for trees). I am immensely happy where I live now.

5. Don’t Look Back

When you make it to #5, pat yourself on the back! You did it! You’ve reached your goal and you are enjoying life in __________________!

When I say “don’t look back”, I’m not talking about burning bridges. What I mean is that you’ve decided what you need to do, paid attention to the circumstances and opportunities before you and made the decision to leave Arizona long ago! Don’t look back, do not have any regrets!

As for me, I’m still friends with people in Arizona and I keep in touch with them. I never second guess myself and my decision to leave Arizona because I know it was the best thing for me and my family.

After leaving Arizona, I had to go back for a wedding a few months later. I confirmed my decision to move out of the desert was the right choice when I returned. People were rude, the sun was incredibly bright, the landscape was bland and I felt those old negative feelings creeping back in. You probably know those feelings and thoughts I’m talking about, especially if you read this blog. I couldn’t believe I lived there for as long as I did! I had to remind myself that I did not live there anymore and would be returning to the tree-laden land in a matter of days!

How Can This Help Me?

Everyone’s situation is different. You may not have a house to sell or a job offer to take. I realize my story may not fit your life, and I only described the opportunities presented before me. Your opportunities will be different!

Just because my circumstances may not be realistic opportunities for your life, you will have your own doors open up for you! The key is to pay attention to those circumstances that pop up that may open that door to you leaving!

It is undeniably expensive to move out of the desert. All of the major cities in Arizona are very isolated from the rest of the world (and each other), making almost any kind of move a long-distance move. Perhaps you need to save up money, sell your furniture or just fill up the tank and drive away! You ended up in Arizona somehow, right? No one is forcing you to stay, so find a way and fight for your happiness!

Happy New Year!

It is now 2016. Do you really want to spend another year in a place you really don’t want to be? I’m not a believer in New Year’s Resolutions, as we have to be resolute every day of the year! Stay determined and focused once you’ve decided to finally leave Arizona!

The Future of NoArizona

Just in case you’re wondering, this is NOT the end of NoArizona! Although I’ve left Arizona (for good), this website will remain in the hopes it will be helpful to others. There may not be as many blog posts, but NoArizona will be here.

Thank you all for your comments here on the website, and also be sure to check out our NoArizona Facebook Page!

 

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53 thoughts on “How To Leave Arizona (For Good)

  1. negrocomics says:

    Dude don’t give up the fight –keep publishing against Arizona. Where do you live now?

  2. Heidi says:

    This is a fantastic update! Thank you for this positive, hopeful post. I escaped AZ this past July, and I’m back on the east coast, too. Your web site is an inspiration to all who seek to flee the cruel Phoenix area. You and I (and many others who have shared here) are proof that leaving Hellizona IS achievable!

  3. daveom71 says:

    Congratulations! I’m still freezing my balls off in Chicago (El Nino? Where?!?) but I have future plans to move to Texas. Those aren’t set in stone and I’ve heard mixed reviews about the Dallas – Ft. Worth area. I’ve heard & seen enough about Houston to know it’s another Phoenix! Anyway, thanks for doing this blog as it seems to have helped many people cope with a state where nobody wants to live!

    • andrew william says:

      Hello, I am new to this blog beleive it or not I FOUND THIS BLOG WHEN LOOKING TO MOVE TO PHOENIX ,YES …I AM WANTING TO MOVE TO PHOENIX LOL.
      Aside from that, I live in TX now, the job market isnt that bad Dallas is far better than Houston, Houston is a hellhole, if you hate Phoenix youll realize quickly that Houston is the darkest most humid part of Hell reserved for the masses,its congested ,disgusting and so much more .People are snobbish and its just disgusting.DFW is not too bad, less humid. lots of decent places to live in DFW- NO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION youll need a car. Traveling anywhere can take time,lots but not bad. What does everyone hate about Phoenix? I actually find it nice when i visit. People are a bit rude at times but certain areas kinda call to me, its peacefull to me.

  4. Hatin' AZ says:

    Thank you for the instructions on how to get out of here. We needs instructions, since this place is like a big giant black hole that sucks you in so you can’t get out.

    I have been hear for over a decade and still no friends. This place attracts the undesirables. I hate it here.

    So I am making this my new years resolution. I’m getting out of here by 12/31/16

  5. andra says:

    The lack of jobs here is appalling. It’s so hard to find work. There are schools pouring out people into saturated job markets and the companies are lowering wages. I’ve talked to people out of school who say they are told to go work free, to get experience. How stupid is that? When they decide they are experienced, do they really think businesses are going to give them what they want? The idiots can afford to go without a paycheck, which puts them lower than a slave category.
    Despite everyone here lowering wages, all you see is new cars, people buying new homes or second homes, airports full of people going on vacations, spas, resorts, casinos, big motorhomes, RVs, motorcycles..how are people affording this? Even if they have credit, the more you charge, the higher the monthly payment will be.
    Who are all of these people making over 100K a year? What fields are they in? I don’t get it, because the jobs I have had…no raises, no merit increases, no cost of living adjustments, no bonuses, nothing. You’re supposed to feel lucky you have your job.
    Another thing…so many people here don’t work.
    They retire at 45, 50, 55…how do they have so much money to retire and not work? They won’t get SS until they are 65, and even that isn’t a big amount for most anymore.
    How are they all so rich? Are they all landlords? That seems to be a big status symbol for that group–to buy a home or inherit a home and rent it out, ruining it for people in that neighborhood.
    Just so many things here.
    Very cold people, very unfriendly here. Maybe that goes with the big fence walls between the homes.

    • Hirene says:


      https://polldaddy.com/js/rating/rating.jsMust have government pensions or part of the military industrial complex.

    • LargeEventPlanner says:


      https://polldaddy.com/js/rating/rating.jsI completely disagree with essentially everything you stated. Have you actually lived anywhere outside of Arizona? People in Arizona are extraordinarily friendly, I mark it up to all the vitamin D from the sun. SkyHarbor is often listed as the friendliest airport in the nation. I love living in Chandler. Our home value has increased by six figures the past five years; the roads are in great condition; never have to plan around the weather – you can count on it being wonderful; lots of places to visit beautiful mountains and deserts; good schools; etc. Life and anywhere you live is what YOU make of it, blaming a location or others is an utter cop-out. Also, about jobs – my husband can’t find enough qualified IT folks and he pays nice six figure salaries. If you are unskilled, you probably are not going to have much luck finding a position anywhere. Everyone in today’s world needs to be skilled at something – the days of paying $20 an hour to unskilled factory workers are gone, and should have never occurred in the first place. I come from a working-class family and my folks made it very clear to us early on that we need an education whether college or a trade with which we could support ourselves comfortably. It was up to us to make it happen. People complaining that they have no friends – might want to take a long look at theirselves this is not a problem for everyone. This entire post seems to be a self-fulfilling pity fest. My Dad would say, “grow-up and assume responsibility”.

  6. Garry says:

    I found your site because I am researching moving there!… From San Clemente Ca.
    Initially to the valley but hopefully up north not long after. Perhaps the Sedona area.
    Getting a little apprehensive.

  7. I stumbled across your blog and found it helpful. You see, I’m one of those who have felt stuck in the desert. I actually moved from NC (Charlotte) to Phoenix for a job nearly 20 years ago and am hoping to move back soon! I didn’t like the desert when I first moved here, but eventually gained an appreciation for it. To me, the best part about this state is getting out and seeing it! Some spectacular scenery. However, it has never felt like “home” hence, why I am seeking to move back to the southeast. I am glad you were able to find a way out and know you will enjoy all NC has to offer!

  8. kathleen m andresen says:

    glad to find this..been here for only two weeks and i hate it..like being sucker punched in the gut..came here with my spouse because he took a job out here and likes the desert. I may leave him out here to get my ass away from here.

  9. MK says:

    My husband took a job here 7 years ago we moved here from Austin, Tx. I was in shock from the lack of friendly people here and still am. We will move back to Texas when he retires….. But that will be awhile as he is only 55…. I really do not like it here
    At least it is nice to know that it is not just me….. The people here just stick to themselves and arent interested in new neighbors or hospitality. Lot of rude people here

    • hikeaz2016 says:

      MK sorry for your bad experience. I don’t usually hear that complaint about Arizona. Ironically, we moved to Austin in 2008 and decided to move back to AZ. While the city was beautiful we just couldn’t get used to the vibe of the place.

    • janm says:

      Sedona has some great views and people. However the widespread corruption and abuses have created an exodous. Worst experiences here for many I know anyway….it and the state should come with a warning label!!! I wish I could leave here…I reluctantly came with family ..and over the years, who have passed away. It truly lives up to its common name as the Hate HATE State!

      • Paula says:

        I also reluctantly came with my family after six years of nagging. I just posted my first comment. I hope it offers you something. Look for opportunities. I keep going with small things: cleaning out closets and kitchen cabinets so I can get rid of unwanted clutter and make a quicker get away. It helps me emotionally, like I’m doing something!

  10. Annie says:

    I love this blog because I feel this way! I moved here 15 years ago from N.J. because my husband (now ex husband) wanted to. I didn’t like it when I first came here to visit and I was terribly unhappy when we first moved here. But I wanted my husband to feel happy as he wasn’t happy living back east. After living here 7 months I found out he was having an affair with someone at work. To make a horrible long story short here I am 15 years later and still not liking it. I am happily remarried (now for 11 years) to someone who is from the North West. I would never have met him if I didn’t move here. I feel the reason I ended up here was to literally start over again. My husband and I both have good jobs, my sister and her family live here (even though I screamed don’t move here to her), we have a beautiful home and have made good friends, which some of them have already moved themselves, but I still want to leave. I too want to settle in NC. I love and miss the east coast but don’t want to go back to the hard winters of the North East. I have friends who live in Cary and love it! The only thing holding me back from moving are my two kids I had with my ex. They are happy here and do not foresee moving back east for now. They are both out of high school, going to college and I know will do welI on their own. I am hoping once I make that move they’ll want to eventually follow. I just know in my heart I need to get out of here. Every year when the extreme heat sets in I feel like I am suffocating. It never gets easier to get used to, only harder! I miss the four seasons, greenery, Atlantic Ocean and the east coast mentality. I just hope, if and when we do make that move, my husband likes it. He is easy going and feels as long as we’re happy together we can live anywhere 🙂 But, he’s not from back east and I just hope he doesn’t feel out of place. This blog helps me feel like I’m not crazy in feeling this way and wanting to move. So many people our here love it and they look at me like I’m crazy when they don’t get that same reaction from me.

    • hikeaz2016 says:

      You are definitely not alone! While Arizona is a nice place it’s certainly not for everyone. The owner of this blog gave some very good advice on how to plan your move out of Arizona. I moved here from NC and learned to appreciate the desert and its uniqueness. However, it never felt like “home” to me and I am now planning my move back to the east. There is a caveat, though, my wife wants to explore the option of bring snowbirds out here during the winter months. We shall see. Good luck in your planning.

    • Rene Bataglia says:

      Hi there. I am from back east, NY and Florida. I live in Green Valley, AZ and like it ok here, but long for the east coast, the trees, grass and greenery, rain, etc. I just can’t stand the desert, the brown, desolate terrain. It looks like there was a nuclear holocaust and the people walking around are the survivors. It’s just flat out ugly.
      If you would like to talk I need someone who can relate because the “ZONIES” get offended if you knock the desert. If you email me we can exchange phone numbers. I would rather not post my number on this site. ReneBataglia@gmail.com
      Hope to hear from you!

  11. Paula says:

    It took me six years before I pulled the plug on Michigan by the prompting of my husband and daughter’s family. It ‘s been three years in the Phoenix area and I still haven’t adjusted. Anti-depressants didn’t help. Now it’s summer and I don’t leave the house unless it’s necessary and dark. My husband does the grocery shopping and runs errands on the weekend. If I travel in the car, he drives and while wearing sun glasses, I keep my eyes closed, so I’m not reminded where I am. Not one day goes by that I don’t think about Michigan. We went to Michigan for a wedding, staying for a few days, Being overcome with grief, I cried much of the time. I agreed to move because of my husband’s back surgery after he slipped and fell at least three times. If I ask to move back am I being selfish?

  12. Lisa says:

    Thanks so much for this site. I am almost a life long resident and came here with my mom when I was 5 years old and had no say in the matter. She moved here from California to care for her parents. She worked for the state for years and always told me that by the time you figure out you will never make much money in Arizona you are too broke to leave. You are held captive by low wages and an environment that has never been supportive of employees. ( Right to work state ) The climate is a living hell and in spite of the sales job they do ( you will get used to the heat ) you don’t. It isn’t just 3 months of heat it is more like 5 and the climate is getting hotter thanks to all the cement they are paving the desert with. Apparently they fail to make the connection between heat and cement. People can be cold and the population is transient. Mass transit is poor and it isn’t the most progressive state on the planet. Scottsdale especially is becoming a millennial mecca and if you aren’t a member of that hot demographic or a member of the affluent demographic you aren’t made to feel very welcome. Arrogant attitudes abound. In short, I have complained about it for years, refereed to it as a hell hole and now realize I am the only one who can fix it or improve my situation. Life is too short to call Arizona home – for any length of time. I need to remain positive and locate a job – in a more desirable state. I remain optimistic that a door will open before I am too old to – walk through it. IF this has helped just one person avoid this hole – I have made a positive contribution……………

  13. Abstercat says:

    You are so lucky to have escaped! I feel stuck here. Moved here last year from California. Worst move of my life! 😦

    • hikeaz2016 says:

      I have been trying to move for the past 15 years! Honestly, Arizona is not a horrible place it’s just not the place for us! I never imagined it would be this difficult to leave. However, my time is getting close and we should finally be leaving in a year or so. I am ecstatic! Don’t lose hope and don’t give up your quest to leave if that is what is in your heart. It will happen, but may require patience.

  14. Starr says:

    Rated worst for aggressive driving. Aggressive drivers, aggressive people. I hate this state.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-u-s-cities-have-the-most-aggressive-drivers/

  15. RG says:

    Thank you for posting this. It sounds like I feel the same way you did. I just got through my 19th summer here and I have been trying to leave for years. Finally had the opportunity and it ended up not working out on the other end, so I stayed. I am carefully and patiently planning my PERMANENT escape. Your words are encouraging!

    • hikeaz2016 says:

      Patience is definitely an important part to moving out of here! I tried twice before, but never took the time I am now taking to plan my move. I wanted out so bad I jumped both times without being prepared.

      • hikeaz2016 says:

        I did the exact same thing…twice! I too am trying to properly plan my departure although I do not hate Arizona, per se, it just is not “home” for me. I love the outdoor opportunities afforded here.

  16. Hatin' Phoenix, AZ says:

    Happy New Year! May 2017 be the year of your escape from Arizona!

  17. […] stopped posting some time ago when he actually left Arizona – you can read the entirety here. But I must post the 5 main points here to remind us of what we need to do. Point #1, that writing […]

  18. hspdiscovery says:

    https://polldaddy.com/js/rating/rating.jsLove this blog ❤ I’m in the process of moving to California. Just being here, surrounded by green trees and a kinder more open minded culture, has lifted my spirits immensely. After moving from the east coast, I spent 12 (frustrating) years in AZ and NEVER liked it. In fact I vowed desperately to move after the first year but became complacent and then found a great job. It was like my soul was sucked out of me and the last two years I went into a depression thats lifting.
    It’s interesting to hear all these stories and relate so much. It’s easy to feel alone in AZ but obviously many feel similarly. I do know people who absolutely love it there but each to their own. If it doesn’t work, you can’t force it.
    To anyone who was like me and thought maybe it’s ok, you can make it work, the grass is greener where you water it: there’s a chance it WILL NOT get better there. Sometimes I thought, maybe it’s me and an attitude adjustment is needed. But now I’m not so sure. Take a chance. Risk it to move. Don’t sit around twiddling your thumbs like I did living in misery.

    • hikeaz2016 says:

      You just confirmed what I was thinking. I have waffled with whether to move or not thinking if I made a few changes here or there things will be different. Well that has NOT worked so far and I find my thoughts still pondering/dreaming of moving away from the desert. Arizona is a nice place for some, but not everyone. I love the scenic beauty of the state, but hate that I feel that my enthusiasm, drive and passion has been sucked out of me. It is NOT the worst place, but after 18 years a change is in order. At this point I know what needs to be done. I am glad you are making the move and wish you well.

      • Rene Bataglia says:

        I live in south of Tucson and hate it. I love the weather but the desert terrain is so ugly and depressing. You can’t say this to the ZONIES who love it here. I could use someone to talk to about it. I don’t want to post my number on the website but if you email me at renebataglia@gmail.com I can send it to you. Hope to hear from you.

  19. ToTheFinishLine says:


    https://polldaddy.com/js/rating/rating.jsI am happy to say I was offered a job in my old state and I will be leaving AZ for good in about a month. This summer would have been my 19th here. I don’t know how I got through the previous 18. After a failed attempt last year it feels so great knowing there is an end in sight to the desert landscape and heat. Thank you for creating the website. It helped immensely. And good luck to anyone else trying to leave. You can do it!!!

  20. Arizona Sucks says:


    https://polldaddy.com/js/rating/rating.jsI lived in Arizona for about 20 years. Lived in Tucson and Phoenix. Tucson sucks ass and Phoenix sucks even more ass. The whole state of Arizona sucks ass. But Phoenix, Nogales, Douglas, and Yuma especially suck ass. Tucson is marginally better but still sucks ass. Hell even the nicer or less hellish places in Arizona like Flagstaff, and Prescott still suck
    Even the Grand Canyon is nowhete near as great as people make it out to be. Finally got the hell out of this hellhole state a couple years ago and never looked back. Would never ever even think about moving back. The day I left this hellhole state was the happiest day of my life.

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